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by gregster on Sun Aug 23, 2009 2:58 am
Hiya, I have just done a couple of connection speed tests on my pc as the internet stuff seems to be getting slower and slower... Results... 0.93mb download speed 0.37mb upload speed... Why is it so slow...is there anything I can do to speed it up, its supposed to be a 2meg broadband connection??? It used to be much quicker on this same pc, or is it my PC? it wont even stream youtube stuff now without having to keep stopping!! Go gentle with me, as I am not that good with PC's... Cheers for your help guys... Gregster
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by Roo on Sun Aug 23, 2009 3:05 am
Hi Greg Tonight Mine has been crashing all the time, I've had to repair mine several times not sure why, I haven't done the speed test, but its not usually like this whereby I have had to repair the system, maybe its just a flux in the system,I know that some maintenance is being done on the electricity lines  , but all I know is mine keeps crashing and like you say slow .. Sorry I know its absolutely no help at all to you , but your not alone  but just thought I'd mention it like you do Cheers 
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by Alchamist on Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:12 am
Sadly, broadband speeds are dependent on many factors, and always remember that a "2mb service" actually means "up to 2mb service". To get the full 2mb consistently, you would need to be within half a mile of the exchange, on new copper wires etc etc. ADSL is rate-adaptive, so renegotiates the speed on a regular basis to achieve the lowest error rate. There is also the issue of "contention" - i.e. how many other people in your area share the data feed at the exchange. Depending on your service provider, this could be as high as 50:1 - i.e. for every data pipe in the exchange, there are 50 users on it. Obviously, when everyone is on in the evenings, downloading their videos etc, your service will crawl due to the shared bandwidth there. Assuming that you are using an external, independent modem (i.e. BT Home hub, stand alone router/modem) and not one of the fantastically awful USB "modems", then the issues is most likely with your service and not the PC - however, if you have lots of services (i.e. anti-virus, anti-spyware, personal firewall, yada yada yada), there is a good chance these might slow down your system depending on how they interact (are they scanning everything as you click on a page), or if they are updating themselves etc. (And no, I am not suggesting you remove them all, it's just an area to be aware of  ) If you are using Internet Explorer 7 or 8, then these browsers are also known to be fantastically slow (to do with the amount of personal data they store about you and your browsing habits ... ), so it might be worth trying Firefox or Chrome to see if your experience is any better. Also, make sure you are up to date with all your microsoft updates to ensure you don't have anything nefarious on your PC that is working away in the background sending out viral e-mails etc ... Anyway, hope that helps! 
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by gregster on Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:26 am
Just did an windows update and now download speed is 1.35mb and upload speed is still 0.37mb... Why would upload speed be so slow...I have a zoom wireless router than is hard wired to this pc, so not using the wireless, pc is pretty well spec'ed although a few years old now...running firefox, chrome and explorer 8 but all as slow as each other... Have cleared most of the stuff of the desktop as that can slow it down i believe, and have defragged the harddrive... Just not as fast as it was... The internet speed check that i did yesterday was in the early hours of the morning so I would guess less connection useage locally... Use AVG free virus software, and spybot... Your thoughts please...and thanks for your help so far...
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by cheekychick on Sun Aug 23, 2009 12:38 pm
upload is always slower than download, usually about 25% of upload speed is memory serves me right, someone will say if I am wrong, I am sure...
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by Alchamist on Sun Aug 23, 2009 3:04 pm
Nope, you're right there CC ... though 25% is a bit optimistic!  Basically, ADSL is Asynchronous - so your download speed is faster than your upload. ADSL is designed for the home users - so techincally your normal "upload" would be the page request (when you click on a link in your browser) which is a very small bit of data, and you then download the content - hence the difference. You can get Synchronous DSL - where your up and down speeds should match ... difference is that it's about £150 a month ... if you can get it! Sadly, the only way to get consistent broadband speeds at the moment is to go cable, as it's not reliant on copper wire. BT have now had the way cleared to start rolling out FTTC, which will allow much faster, more stable home connections over your normal phone line, however we are at least 5+ years away from that being a reality for most subscribers, as they are currently in the process of rolling out ADSL2, which while it will offer faster speeds, the reliability and end usage speeds will still be dependant on distance from the exchange etc.
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by gregster on Sun Aug 23, 2009 3:11 pm
Cheers guys n gals....I guess since we live in the middle of nowhere Bt's lines are probably made of WOOD or something equally poo... Guess I will have to suffer it for the time being!
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by cheekychick on Sun Aug 23, 2009 3:13 pm
Alchamist wrote:BT have now had the way cleared to start rolling out FTTC, which will allow much faster, more stable home connections over your normal phone line, however we are at least 5+ years away from that being a reality for most subscribers
Ha, that'll be the NEXT millenium where I live then, lol Gregster, Jay did mention your distance from the exchange as well, if you do a broadband check, what does this say, cause if you are a bit away, and they just bung you 2mb anyway, it can be fabulous when everyone in the village is in bed, but as people make calls or other people on-line, this all introduces noise, and the line quality attenuates away with the distance factor thrown in and you end up with nothing. I know this might sound a bit odd, but I had it, I have 1/2 mb here - thats it, but they started me off with 2mb and it was great at about 11.30pm, but impossible to connect any earlier Anyway, enough of this telecomms malarky, that was a past life  Hope it gets sorted 
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by cheekychick on Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:46 pm
Drift wrote:Would it be wrong to say Im going 50meg next month 
shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up 
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by Ruathar on Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:46 pm
Drift wrote:Would it be wrong to say Im going 50meg next month 
Been on it for a few months paid for by work, the official reason is because every time I try and work from home I hit the dowload limit on their other packages and I end up with dial up speeds, unofficial reason being 2 PCs, 2 laptops, 360, phone and a few gadgets all connected at once meant 20 meg was acting like dial up anyway. Now running 2x50 meg lines and I have never noticed any degredation 
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by BadBoy on Mon Aug 24, 2009 12:24 am
 Not too bad for a 8M line running 2 computers, VOIP telephone, and BT Vision video on demand (all being used at the time of test). BT Vision uses 1.5M on it own. Mind you I do live next door to the telephone exchange  Have you tried it early morning and after midnight. That would give you a more realistice idea what speed you getting. Also some providers restrict bandwidth at certian times of the day.
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by mid77 on Mon Aug 24, 2009 12:31 am
Drift wrote:Would it be wrong to say Im going 50meg next month 
Yes, yes it would. We're still in the broadband dark ages here - fastest you can get is 15-20mb (and that's only if you live on top of an exchange)
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