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by Drift on Tue May 19, 2009 7:10 pm
How much would a company expect to pay for one new ? Or hardware that can do this, Application Acceleration using multiple techniques like TCP Performance Enhancing Proxy. WAN Optimization and Compression (WOC) on the other hand would use compression and differential algorithms and techniques to compress data streams or send only differences in file updates. The latter is quite effective for chatty protocols like CIFS.
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by Drift on Tue May 19, 2009 7:50 pm
Its work, they are quoting a silly price for an add on to the server in Luton to resolve some network issues in the North West and Im not to sure if they are filling us full of crud. We have had this "Box of Tricks " on loan from Micosoft and the company reckon it costs £200k They are removing it on Thursday and it drops us in the deep end on a Citrix system that is pants and not workable. They wont name the hardware and Im wanting to find out its name or products like it.
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by Ruathar on Tue May 19, 2009 11:19 pm
Drift wrote:We have had this "Box of Tricks " on loan from Micosoft and the company reckon it costs £200k
If you have any details ican ask our MS rep how much one would cost to supply (even if you have an MS order number they should be able to trace it for me). I can also ask our IBM board if they know of an open source alternative (The cost of MS kit is normally made up of low hardware cost, high lience cost and stupid margin from the supplier).
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by Drift on Tue May 19, 2009 11:23 pm
Ahh the licence cost, thats most likely the killer, that slipped my mind It would be fun to throw an alternative at them, but I just cant get them to give us any info on the hardware or software for that matter. I just want to avoid using Citrix, it works in other departments in our company but runs like a slug with piles slithering over glass in our department. Cheers for the help though 
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by mid77 on Wed May 20, 2009 2:22 am
Probably something like a Juniper or Bluecoat 'WAN Acceleration'/Packet Shaping box (or the like, there are a few of them around - F5 is getting heavily into them these days as well).
As to the price, not entirely sure but we just went down the F5 path and they are not particularly cheap, but 200k sounds a bit steep, even in $AUD. Most of them will run their licensing off bandwidth though so the bigger the pipe, the bigger the cost.
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by Alchamist on Wed May 20, 2009 3:55 pm
What makes me laugh is the actual gain provided by these boxes are negligable, however you will pay through the nose. Any good sysadmin would avoid these kinds of solutions, and instead work on sorting the source of the issue, and not throwing the world's most expensive bandaid at it! 200k buys you quite a few years of a good sysadmin's time! 
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by Alchamist on Wed May 20, 2009 6:54 pm
I know a company that can come take a look .... 
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by Alchamist on Wed May 20, 2009 6:59 pm
Hey - don't mind billing for travelling time! 
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by Alchamist on Wed May 20, 2009 7:08 pm
Really annoy them and tell 'em we can do it with Linux .... 
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