// Frontera Technical Support • View topic - MIDLANDS MONTHLY MEET - OCTOBER 2007
   
 

MIDLANDS MONTHLY MEET - OCTOBER 2007

Forum rules
Disclaimer:
Please understand that the Frontera Owners Group or any organiser of events will not be held responsible for any loss, damage, accident or injury caused by attending an event. You are responsible for your passengers and for your own safety and should carry the necessary recovery and safety equipment. You agree to follow the rules of the Highway Code, Green Lane Code and club pay and play site rules whichever applies. For greenlane events; All events should adhere to the GLASS Code of Conduct, and please note that Rights Of Way often change and if a TRO (traffic regulation order) has been put in place by the local council you should not drive the lane. If you do not agree to the above you should refrain from taking part in the event.

Postby lotusfrontera on Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:26 am

nitromotor wrote:It was a good meet, nice to meet old and new faces.


I`ll second that, and it was even better to retire to the pub for more chat :wink:
User avatar
lotusfrontera
How Many Posts
How Many Posts
 
Posts: 463
Joined: Sun Jul 03, 2005 8:47 pm
Location: Burntwood,STAFFS
Model: 2.2 DTI 5dr
Registration Year: 2000/W



Postby 4wheeler on Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:00 am

Can we make a correction on the turnout we had 13.5 fronties and 1 landie which was a brilliant turnout. Glad the RAC Knight sorted you out coco, was nice to see more of your fronty this time ( less muddy ) and the trailer was great.
Dave S 2.4L LWB
User avatar
4wheeler
Apprentice Frontera engineer
Apprentice Frontera engineer
 
Posts: 41
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2007 4:54 pm
Location: Tamworth Staffs



Postby I Live For FOG on Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:04 pm

roll on next meet
A legend in my own mind
User avatar
I Live For FOG
my other car is a broken down frontera,
my other car is a broken down frontera,
 
Posts: 3522
Joined: Tue May 18, 2004 10:54 pm
Location: Out there
Modifications: A legend in my own mind



Postby 4x4 bobby on Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:45 pm

FUDDY MUCKER wrote:
Red Oktober wrote:Jase ....
this may sound silly ....but why does your rear axle look too far forward

Image


Told you my camera phone was dodgy..... !!!

Here's a pic before the lift :

Image


One just after the lift :

Image

The one from today is still unlevel, still need to raise the front another 1". I drove it around today, to let everything settle before final fettling. :wink:. And don't forget the springs have got to sag a little before everything settles as it should do.


You wont have any problems making those springs sag mate. thanks for the comment . Ugly Mucker!!!!!
Comments on Betsy here please!!! viewtopic.php?f=115&t=56282

Bobster!!!!

Frontera's do it better in MUD!!!
Image
West Midlands Area Rep

Its here, the FOG Annual Meet 2014 viewforum.php?f=123
User avatar
4x4 bobby
Satanic Mechanic
Satanic Mechanic
 
Posts: 6449
Joined: Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:44 am
Location: Newcastle-Under-Lyme, Staffordshire.
Model: 2.2 DTI 5dr
Registration Year: 2000/W
Vehicle Name: Betsy
Modifications: Light bar. CB attena on rear door. Wider wheels from an "A" series.
Region: Midlands



Postby FUDDY MUCKER on Mon Oct 29, 2007 7:10 pm

4x4 bobby wrote:You wont have any problems making those springs sag mate. thanks for the comment . Ugly Mucker!!!!!


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

What's this ? Insult Jase day today. :lol:
FUDDY MUCKER
Lord frontera
Lord frontera
 
Posts: 2908
Joined: Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:27 am
Region: Midlands



Postby alex on Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:11 pm

Leaves everyone else alone :lol:

p.s. hows the phone :twisted:
Fronty no.4, pimp mobile Treg 3.2 LWB lifted 2.5"

Fronty no.5 2.8 swb hd coils +2" 31"machos.
User avatar
alex
The Battering Ram
 
Posts: 4625
Joined: Wed Mar 14, 2007 4:18 pm
Model: 3.2 V6 5dr
Registration Year: 1999/T
Modifications: 3.2v6 LWB lifted on 31"at's "The Pimp mobile"

2.8 LWB
5" supension lift,
Body lift,
Manual hubs,
33" mudders,
Fixed Flywheel,
B&Q snorkle,
Flipped ball joints,
Procomp steering shocker,
Modified front bump stops,
Exhaust recirc removed,
EGR removed,
Cat removed,
Front diff lowered,
Dislocation cones,
Spring retainers,
Buckets 4 point harness,
The biggest cb twig you can get.
"The Beast"
Region: Midlands



Postby 4x4 bobby on Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:02 pm

Who's Sexy Susan? I keep getting saucey txt. Who gave her my number yesterday (Alex) ?

Rob
Comments on Betsy here please!!! viewtopic.php?f=115&t=56282

Bobster!!!!

Frontera's do it better in MUD!!!
Image
West Midlands Area Rep

Its here, the FOG Annual Meet 2014 viewforum.php?f=123
User avatar
4x4 bobby
Satanic Mechanic
Satanic Mechanic
 
Posts: 6449
Joined: Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:44 am
Location: Newcastle-Under-Lyme, Staffordshire.
Model: 2.2 DTI 5dr
Registration Year: 2000/W
Vehicle Name: Betsy
Modifications: Light bar. CB attena on rear door. Wider wheels from an "A" series.
Region: Midlands



Postby I Live For FOG on Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:12 pm

just looking at tims which is lifted its coil sprung but you can see a difference
tims
Image

muddy

Image
A legend in my own mind
User avatar
I Live For FOG
my other car is a broken down frontera,
my other car is a broken down frontera,
 
Posts: 3522
Joined: Tue May 18, 2004 10:54 pm
Location: Out there
Modifications: A legend in my own mind



Postby 4x4 bobby on Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:26 pm

He probably drilled the locating hole in the axle in the wrong place!!
Dont forget Milner did tell him they had cured the problem with the 14mm locating stud back to 12mm. "ha ha"

Rob
Comments on Betsy here please!!! viewtopic.php?f=115&t=56282

Bobster!!!!

Frontera's do it better in MUD!!!
Image
West Midlands Area Rep

Its here, the FOG Annual Meet 2014 viewforum.php?f=123
User avatar
4x4 bobby
Satanic Mechanic
Satanic Mechanic
 
Posts: 6449
Joined: Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:44 am
Location: Newcastle-Under-Lyme, Staffordshire.
Model: 2.2 DTI 5dr
Registration Year: 2000/W
Vehicle Name: Betsy
Modifications: Light bar. CB attena on rear door. Wider wheels from an "A" series.
Region: Midlands



Postby FUDDY MUCKER on Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:35 pm

alex wrote:

p.s. hows the phone :twisted:


Ha, ha, Bloody, ha !!!!!!!

You lend your phone to a brummie, and all hell lets loose.....

For some unknown reason, I now have in my contacts the following fog members :

1. Gengus Khan

2. God

3. Sexy Susan

4. Wimpy wolf

5. Lord Manny

So, if you have my mobile number, please ring me so I can put your correct name back in.

Many thanks.

P.S Alex, wait till Cannock, revenge will be sweet. :twisted: :twisted:
FUDDY MUCKER
Lord frontera
Lord frontera
 
Posts: 2908
Joined: Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:27 am
Region: Midlands



Postby alex on Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:06 pm

Fancy that....

just in case you lost my number its 0898.....


I will gaurd my phone at next meet you never know which scoundrels are at large. Your lucky the loo's were far away, Ive had a camera pinched and returned with very candid photos. Girl at Boots gave me some very strange looks when I went to pick em up :oops:
Fronty no.4, pimp mobile Treg 3.2 LWB lifted 2.5"

Fronty no.5 2.8 swb hd coils +2" 31"machos.
User avatar
alex
The Battering Ram
 
Posts: 4625
Joined: Wed Mar 14, 2007 4:18 pm
Model: 3.2 V6 5dr
Registration Year: 1999/T
Modifications: 3.2v6 LWB lifted on 31"at's "The Pimp mobile"

2.8 LWB
5" supension lift,
Body lift,
Manual hubs,
33" mudders,
Fixed Flywheel,
B&Q snorkle,
Flipped ball joints,
Procomp steering shocker,
Modified front bump stops,
Exhaust recirc removed,
EGR removed,
Cat removed,
Front diff lowered,
Dislocation cones,
Spring retainers,
Buckets 4 point harness,
The biggest cb twig you can get.
"The Beast"
Region: Midlands



Postby I Live For FOG on Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:27 pm

back to springs is the length equal both from axle to the spring hanger both front and rear mountings
A legend in my own mind
User avatar
I Live For FOG
my other car is a broken down frontera,
my other car is a broken down frontera,
 
Posts: 3522
Joined: Tue May 18, 2004 10:54 pm
Location: Out there
Modifications: A legend in my own mind



Postby FUDDY MUCKER on Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:48 am

steve wrote:back to springs is the length equal both from axle to the spring hanger both front and rear mountings


Thank for the advice.

Just been out this morning, jacked truck up and loosened all the bolts, checked everything is ok, dropped back down off jack, drove around the block, then retightend everything back up without the jack.

Then I found this piccy from the first offroad meet, without the new suspension :

Image

Not the best piccy but,
It was the same before any new parts where fitted, slightly more forward.

When underneath, I checked proshaft joints, checked for any sign of leaks etc, the locating hole on the axle clamps is dead centre to the bottom leaf spring either end. Nothing stands out. Car drives fine, infact better then every before.

If infomation there is about 25mm (1") difference between the rear side to the front side of the arces.
FUDDY MUCKER
Lord frontera
Lord frontera
 
Posts: 2908
Joined: Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:27 am
Region: Midlands



Postby FUDDY MUCKER on Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:01 am

Right. For once I'm going to show you I AM semi intelligent. :wink:

Just been doing a bit of maths and wizardary on computer to explain why the rear end seems out of alignment with the arches.

First a few measurements.

Front end lifted by 1.25"

Rear end lifted by 4.00"

Below is a picture. The coloured section is without the lift.

The black and white section is how the vehicle looks with the added lift dimensions.

Image

Now i hope you agree, this now claifiies why the geometry looks a little odd.

Don't forget I have only techincally added +2" extended read shackles. The extra 2" is from the springs. After a few weeks, the rear springs should drop by about an inch or so, shorting the gap even further.

Thanks for all those who commented. If any one has any other suggestions or theories, please post them.
FUDDY MUCKER
Lord frontera
Lord frontera
 
Posts: 2908
Joined: Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:27 am
Region: Midlands



Postby FUDDY MUCKER on Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:53 pm

Right, Let's get :offtopic:

First of all. I would like to thank everyone who turned up, and hopefully those who did, enjoyed it just as much as me. Unfortunately, I missed out on the Beer and Food, :cry:, but I had reports that it was great.

Secondly, I would like to thank ( :twisted: ) Alex (a.k.a GHENGIS KHAN), 4x4 Bobby (a.k.a GOD), and
4x4 Chrissy (a.k.a SEXY SUSAN), for stitching me up like a not nice last night with my moblie phone.

It gave MRS MUCKER (:grumpy:) a good few hours of fun last night and this morning,
and best of all, everyone had a laugh at my expense. :oops: :oops: :oops:

See you all next month. 8)
FUDDY MUCKER
Lord frontera
Lord frontera
 
Posts: 2908
Joined: Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:27 am
Region: Midlands



Postby Drift on Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:37 pm

Bloody hell Jase where you bored :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Seem logical to me :wink:
Ste
FOG Administrator

Frontera Technical Support
Often Imitated Never Bettered

http://www.fronteraowners.co.uk
Image
Its here, the FOG Annual Meet 2014 viewforum.php?f=123
User avatar
Drift
The Man-ual
The Man-ual
 
Posts: 43955
Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:20 pm
Location: Driftshire
Model: 2.8 TDI 5dr
Registration Year: 1995/N
Vehicle Name: Daddy's Car or Triggers Broom
Modifications: 2.8 TDI LWB
Tinkered to it's practical limits but understated, though shockingly cool (do you know her?).
She is nicccccceeee ;-)
Region: North West

Skype:Skype Me.!



Postby paul higgi on Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:56 pm

FUDDY MUCKER wrote:Right. For once I'm going to show you I AM semi intelligent. :wink:

Just been doing a bit of maths and wizardary on computer to explain why the rear end seems out of alignment with the arches.

First a few measurements.

Front end lifted by 1.25"

Rear end lifted by 4.00"

Below is a picture. The coloured section is without the lift.

The black and white section is how the vehicle looks with the added lift dimensions.

Image

Now i hope you agree, this now claifiies why the geometry looks a little odd.

Don't forget I have only techincally added +2" extended read shackles. The extra 2" is from the springs. After a few weeks, the rear springs should drop by about an inch or so, shorting the gap even further.

Thanks for all those who commented. If any one has any other suggestions or theories, please post them.


the length of the hypotanuse is equal to the sum of both sides squared :wink:
User avatar
paul higgi
frontera God
frontera God
 
Posts: 877
Joined: Sun Feb 19, 2006 5:43 pm
Location: north west
Model: 2.5 TDS San Diego 5dr
Registration Year: 1997/R
Modifications: 3" suspension lift
3" body lift
5;38 diffs front /rear
ARB lockers RD44 rear,RD94 front
ARB compressor
Superwinch EPI 9
Revolution transfer gears
35 x 12.50 x 15 BF Goodrich tyres
Cb
Surco roof rack
4 x spotlamps
Rear spotlamp
Rear tubular bumper
Isuzu trooper rear axle
Isuzu trooper front axle
Safari snorkel / RHS SS25HF
Arches cut and welded
trooper fixed yolk rear propshaft
trooper transfer case housing
Hydraulic handbrake
AVM manual locking hubs
3" Flexi Arch Kit
Region: North West



Postby Drift on Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:19 pm

the length of the hypotanuse is equal to the sum of both sides squared


Dam I was just going to say that :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Ste
FOG Administrator

Frontera Technical Support
Often Imitated Never Bettered

http://www.fronteraowners.co.uk
Image
Its here, the FOG Annual Meet 2014 viewforum.php?f=123
User avatar
Drift
The Man-ual
The Man-ual
 
Posts: 43955
Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:20 pm
Location: Driftshire
Model: 2.8 TDI 5dr
Registration Year: 1995/N
Vehicle Name: Daddy's Car or Triggers Broom
Modifications: 2.8 TDI LWB
Tinkered to it's practical limits but understated, though shockingly cool (do you know her?).
She is nicccccceeee ;-)
Region: North West

Skype:Skype Me.!



Postby I Live For FOG on Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:36 pm

thats not bad drift did not realise you studied geometry
A legend in my own mind
User avatar
I Live For FOG
my other car is a broken down frontera,
my other car is a broken down frontera,
 
Posts: 3522
Joined: Tue May 18, 2004 10:54 pm
Location: Out there
Modifications: A legend in my own mind



Postby Drift on Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:49 pm

steve wrote:thats not bad drift did not realise you studied geometry


Often caught on my back in bars checking ceiling geometry :wink:
Ste
FOG Administrator

Frontera Technical Support
Often Imitated Never Bettered

http://www.fronteraowners.co.uk
Image
Its here, the FOG Annual Meet 2014 viewforum.php?f=123
User avatar
Drift
The Man-ual
The Man-ual
 
Posts: 43955
Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:20 pm
Location: Driftshire
Model: 2.8 TDI 5dr
Registration Year: 1995/N
Vehicle Name: Daddy's Car or Triggers Broom
Modifications: 2.8 TDI LWB
Tinkered to it's practical limits but understated, though shockingly cool (do you know her?).
She is nicccccceeee ;-)
Region: North West

Skype:Skype Me.!



PreviousNext

Return to Midlands events

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest

 
   


cron