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A 2.8td compared to my 2.4i

Postby Rich2.4i on Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:00 pm

At work this morning i went along with my boss to see a L200 pick up that he is thinking of getting at a local garage .
Well when i was there they have a M REG 2.8td LWB 98000 miles on he, half vx service history the other half them selfs with 2 owners from new & they want £1195 :D It's MOT till end of may '08 & taxed Till end march . And had a full service in December '07
So i thought i best give it a try as it looked so nice 8) & thought if its any good i may do a swap for my 2.4i LWB if he did not want too much cash :lol: :lol: :lol:
I was out in it for about 15 minutes & did a few miles on main road as well as down a B road
It drove very well BUT it was alot more sluggish than my 2.4i Is this normal as it was :?: It was like it was being restricted in some way even when the turbo come in it did not seem to pull as much as i thought i would :(
Also looking at the engine after drive there was a oil leak from the rocker cover
So what i would like to know are the 2.8's like that compared to the 2.4's or would you say it's just a bad one :?: :roll:
And would my truck & £500 be a fair swap or should i walk away and find another one :?:
I Like this Truck of mine, just like me it's well run in it's not old just older.

My Truck's :
Playtoy : '94 M Frontera 2.4i LWB NOW SOLD AS DIED
Family truck : '07 Ford Ranger Thunder 2.5 TDCI
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Postby Drift on Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:37 pm

Sounds like the air filter could be blocked or (as Ive found out) brakes could be binding.

The rocker cover leak wouldnt be to serious just tighten it up easy peesy.
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Postby Rich2.4i on Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:48 pm

The air filter did not look too bad so don't think it was that,
As for brakes binding it maybe as i did not have to press much on brake pedal and it stopped dead - where with my truck i have to put a fair bit of force on the pedal to do the same .
What sort of cost would it be to sort brakes if its that ? (they would need to come down on price a bit if i had to do it :lol: :lol: :lol: )
I Like this Truck of mine, just like me it's well run in it's not old just older.

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New look grill,
CB fitted,
Bull bars,
Side steps,
Removed All mud flaps,
16" Chevy Blazer Alloy wheels,
Removed spare wheel carrier from the rear,
front valance trimmed a Little,
Snorkel ( NOT HOME MADE )

Rearranged back bumper & quarter panel
NOW SOLD AS DIED ....................

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Region: South Wales

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Postby Drift on Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:54 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Im doing mine in the morning :roll:

Ive just got a front set of disks and pads (there worn anyway) hoping that helps one issue. £56
But Im going to check all the calipers and refurbish any that are sticking,

I think brakes international charge around £13 for a refurb kit.
Failing that calipers from a scrapper.
Ready refurbed calipers can cost in the region of £65 each. :shock:
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Postby Red Oktober on Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:55 pm

if the brakes are binding ......it will feel sluggish :wink:

if you do get it ....i would recconend that you did a full complete service :wink:
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Postby Drift on Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:55 pm

Oh another common fault is a sticky handbrake :wink:
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Postby Rich2.4i on Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:04 pm

I thinks i will go have another look at it in the morn & see if i can have another drive in it :wink:
Then make my mined up if i should get it or not as i have been told what's wrong with the one i have :roll: :lol: :lol:
Thanks for the help
I Like this Truck of mine, just like me it's well run in it's not old just older.

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New look grill,
CB fitted,
Bull bars,
Side steps,
Removed All mud flaps,
16" Chevy Blazer Alloy wheels,
Removed spare wheel carrier from the rear,
front valance trimmed a Little,
Snorkel ( NOT HOME MADE )

Rearranged back bumper & quarter panel
NOW SOLD AS DIED ....................

MY Car :
Ford Ranger Thunder '07
Region: South Wales

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Postby Drift on Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:07 pm

Whats wrong with yours ?

See if the garage will jack it up, then spin the wheels :wink:
Check the bearings while your there wibble wobble.

Oh and rear diff cover :wink:
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Postby Rich2.4i on Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:12 pm

Nothing wrong with mine :lol: :lol: :lol: Thats why the Wife wants to know why i want to change it :roll:
Will see if garage will jack it up ETC
I Like this Truck of mine, just like me it's well run in it's not old just older.

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New look grill,
CB fitted,
Bull bars,
Side steps,
Removed All mud flaps,
16" Chevy Blazer Alloy wheels,
Removed spare wheel carrier from the rear,
front valance trimmed a Little,
Snorkel ( NOT HOME MADE )

Rearranged back bumper & quarter panel
NOW SOLD AS DIED ....................

MY Car :
Ford Ranger Thunder '07
Region: South Wales

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Postby Red Oktober on Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:22 pm

Rich2.4i wrote:Nothing wrong with mine :lol: :lol: :lol: Thats why the Wife wants to know why i want to change it :roll:



theres the reason ......it's a 2.8 :lol: :lol:
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Postby Rich2.4i on Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:25 pm

Red Oktober wrote:
Rich2.4i wrote:Nothing wrong with mine :lol: :lol: :lol: Thats why the Wife wants to know why i want to change it :roll:



theres the reason ......it's a 2.8 :lol: :lol:


Thats the bit she don't get :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Why would i want one of them :lol: :lol: :lol:
Because i do & they are 8) 8) :lol: :lol: :lol:
I Like this Truck of mine, just like me it's well run in it's not old just older.

My Truck's :
Playtoy : '94 M Frontera 2.4i LWB NOW SOLD AS DIED
Family truck : '07 Ford Ranger Thunder 2.5 TDCI
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Vehicle Name: MUDDY DUCK
Modifications: MY PLAY TRUCK ( MUDDY DUCK ) : 2.4I LWB FRONTERA '94 M
New look grill,
CB fitted,
Bull bars,
Side steps,
Removed All mud flaps,
16" Chevy Blazer Alloy wheels,
Removed spare wheel carrier from the rear,
front valance trimmed a Little,
Snorkel ( NOT HOME MADE )

Rearranged back bumper & quarter panel
NOW SOLD AS DIED ....................

MY Car :
Ford Ranger Thunder '07
Region: South Wales

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Postby Red Oktober on Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:31 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Rich2.4i on Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:00 pm

I went back and had another look at the 2.8 today,
I got them to jack it up and had a good look around it all -
Both rear brakes seem to be binding and both front wheel bearings are a Little wobble :(
The rear diff cover was OK But the oil in there looked like it had go water in it as it was a creamy white colour .
Also took her for another drive down the road to a mud track that is owned by the next door farmer that we do work for, & tryed it in 4WD and it makes alot of noise when in 4H not so much in 4L - :? Any ideas as what this would be ?
Anyway the garage would not do any other sort of deal still what £500 & my truck . :shock:
So i will leave this one & see if i find a better one :D
I Like this Truck of mine, just like me it's well run in it's not old just older.

My Truck's :
Playtoy : '94 M Frontera 2.4i LWB NOW SOLD AS DIED
Family truck : '07 Ford Ranger Thunder 2.5 TDCI
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Vehicle Name: MUDDY DUCK
Modifications: MY PLAY TRUCK ( MUDDY DUCK ) : 2.4I LWB FRONTERA '94 M
New look grill,
CB fitted,
Bull bars,
Side steps,
Removed All mud flaps,
16" Chevy Blazer Alloy wheels,
Removed spare wheel carrier from the rear,
front valance trimmed a Little,
Snorkel ( NOT HOME MADE )

Rearranged back bumper & quarter panel
NOW SOLD AS DIED ....................

MY Car :
Ford Ranger Thunder '07
Region: South Wales

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Postby Drift on Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:03 pm

Diff could have a little water in through the breather or very very old oil.

Brakes binding could be handbrake sticking or calipers, could even possibly be a rear diff problem.

Keep looking, I would, a goodn will turn up :wink:
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She is nicccccceeee ;-)
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Postby alex on Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:11 pm

Have to agree, it could be a dog. The 4wd would worry me, theres at least 2 areas need some serious TLC.
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