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Postby dave-mr2-frontera on Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:05 pm

alright people just bought my self a fonty sport 2.0 8v. but have a couple of problems with it the 4 wheel drive system does not work back diff works but not the front as i am a mud devil and like to play off road :twisted: . also there is a feul leak from some were.? just woundered if there was any comane faults with either the faults its a real pain in the :roll:
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Postby Drift on Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:10 pm

When you say doesnt work, do you mean, no 4wd at all< remember the Frontera is only part time 4wd
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Postby meooo on Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:14 pm

Drift wrote:When you say doesnt work, do you mean, no 4wd at all< remember the Frontera is only part time 4wd


and you select it, drive forwards to engage it, de-select and reverse to disengage

Fuel leaks can be anywhere...look around the fuel tank/filler pipe area for starters
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Postby Drift on Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:16 pm

Good place to start for fuel leaks on the sport are the fuel filter under the sill halfway down the drivers side or the fuel filler neck sometime splits.

Just reread and saw the fuel bit :oops: :lol:
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Re: help please new to FOG(some problems)

Postby Silver Ghost on Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:44 pm

dave-mr2-frontera wrote:alright people just bought my self a fonty sport 2.0 8v. but have a couple of problems with it the 4 wheel drive system does not work back diff works but not the front as i am a mud devil and like to play off road :twisted: . also there is a feul leak from some were.? just woundered if there was any comane faults with either the faults its a real pain in the :roll:


had a fuel leak not to long ago. Mine was at the top of the fuel tank, smell of petrol for a while, but no aparent drips anywhere.

then i got the tell tale drips later, turned out to be the pipes from the fuel sender on top of the tank. i had them renewed and all has been fine.

so its worth checking there, its not easy to see, but a few members maybe be able to help on how to check this area, as its not always easy to see, for the novice.

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Postby dave-mr2-frontera on Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:12 pm

well i engange it and the rear wheels turn spin lol but the front wheels dont do anything just free wheeling so cant get up hill lol the light come on. on the dash so say it enganged but just the rear works. will check the feul pump as its making a hell of a noice. i get 80 mile out of £20 and i filled the thing up £100 and lasted 2 days 230 miles lol :(. really pain about the 4wd not working
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Postby I Live For FOG on Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:27 pm

his may be helpfull

http://fronteraowners.co.uk/v-web/bulle ... php?t=6897

also check propshaft is fitted to front diff
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Postby dave-mr2-frontera on Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:51 pm

was his front wheels not working either and after replacing or putting the circlips back did this sort the problem seems a big proplem for it to be to sticky circlips ? thanks
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Postby john (smifffy) on Fri Dec 21, 2007 8:52 pm

just a thought have you checked that you have auto hubs fitted as you just might have manual ones :?: :idea: :!:
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Postby dave-mr2-frontera on Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:04 pm

i dont know how i check this? how do you never had a 4wd before but man there fun lol :lol: going to get new circlips on monday try replace them hope this makes a diffrences
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Postby rangaKoo on Mon Dec 24, 2007 8:43 am

If the front hubs look like the ones in the pics on the thread above (Steve's post) then they are auto hubs (and damn those white wheels were clean!) --- I have copied the picture of the Auto Hubs across for comparison together...

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Then you have manual hubs and you will have to turn that to LOCK in order to make the hubs engage.

Let us know what ones you've got.

It might be worthwhile having a read through THIS THREAD before trying again and also before pulling the hubs apart. It might be technique more than a problem (not saying you don't know what your doing, but have a read and then go play, don't forget to not do it on tarmac!)

Good luck and let us know how you get on.

PS. the 2.0 is not very good on fuel economy! (Drive it steady and don't rev it too hard and it does get slightly better but it's a heavy vehicle with a small underpowered engine)

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Postby Rick on Mon Dec 24, 2007 3:42 pm

I can vouch for the poor fuel consumption of the 2l my last fronty did probably less that 80 miles to twenty quid!!!!

My 2.2 Petrol B Series is much better on the jungle juice and it has a vast amount more power!!

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Postby dave-mr2-frontera on Wed Dec 26, 2007 3:16 pm

well i haev auto lock hubs. i have a funny clicky noice think some thing is lose. prob be the bottom ball joint. tho will have to get them off it just totally mucky i think i like the dirt to much lol. and 4x4 looks wrong clean i think lol. but will get down and dirty take it apart and try again many thanks
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Postby rangaKoo on Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:23 am

If you have a funny clicking noise when running forward and it sounds just like a click, click, click noise then that means that the auto-hubs are partially engage.

Take the vehicle to a bit of gravel, stop, put it in 4HI then drive forward two or 3 metres, put it in 4LO and do the same, then stop, put it back to 2HI and reverse 5 or 6 metres (checking that you aren't going to run over any children) ;)

THAT hopefully might sort that out.

Sometimes the hubs (specially if they've been wet a few times and need new grease) get partially engaged due to not being properly disengaged or winding themselves out somehow..

See if that makes a difference and let me know.

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Postby nitromotor on Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:39 am

Strip hub, check that the circlip is attached
If it comes off the drive shaft can slip back of the splines and you will lose drive at the front.
Quick check, grab the drive shafts and check for excessive movement in and out of the hub
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Postby dave-mr2-frontera on Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:33 pm

i have noticed that there is no washer or circlip. so i phoned vauxhall to get a new one and they dont have them in stock and there are 10 diffrent sizes for the auto lock hubs ? at 1-0.5 mm incraments and i dont have feller gauges. does any body now the size. and still cant figure out were the washer and circlip goes ?many thanks
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